Comments on: Tongues http://www.whyilefttherevivalfellowship.com/tongues Be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you” (1 Peter 3:15) Tue, 31 Aug 2010 01:43:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Hutch http://www.whyilefttherevivalfellowship.com/tongues#comment-108 Hutch Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:08:36 +0000 http://www.whyilefttherevivalfellowship.com/?p=12#comment-108 Why did Jesus come to the earth? Suddenly? No. As planned? Yes. First of all, not as second, Jesus came to eradicate the devil's work. (1John 3:8). To save the mandkind from the sins is the second or additional (John 3:16). The reasons are as follows. (even though I am not indicating chapters and verses, these are all from the Bible) The devil rebelled against the God in God's heaven so that he was expelled with 1/3 of angels. Therefore, only the second day of the 6-day creation is the day when God is not said to be happy as the second day is the day when God created the universe into which he put the corrupted devil and following angels. When you have a look at the bible, God was happy for the other five days. God did not want to execute the corrupted devil right away as he is righteous and he wanted to take official measures so that He sent Jesus to fullfill his will. That is why Jesus asked the Father that the Father's will be realized. Also, Jesus said that the kingdom of heaven is inside you when you expel demons with the Holy Spirit. Demons are followers of the Devil. Likewise, removing the works of the Devil is understood as having the kingdom of heaven in you. Throughout realization of this first purpose, the eradicatoin of the Devil's work, God has a pity on the mankind as he used the mankind as getting Jesus as flesh in this world. Therefore, he is giving a chance to be saved. Otherwise, he could have saved all the mankind. However, the God who loves his name wants to save only the people who are his name as the savier. What is his name? Jesus. You can find how the Lord's prayer starts (Holiness to your name...). Most of christians who are obsessed with hamanism think that the only and first reason of Jesus coming to this world is that the God wants to save us. Thus, your wondering about why the God sent Jesus suddenly and Holy Spirit suddently is based on humanism, I reckon. However, the Bible is clearly saying that all the stories and episodes are parable or shades of things to come, which is Jesus. Therefore, the God did not send Jesus unexpectedly. It was planned from the beginning. As stated, Jesus saved people from their sins. Therefore, people who believe in the name, Jesus, are saved from their sins. So, the Holy Spirit has been sent to these people because the Spirit will be testifying for the name Jesus, in spirits of saved people. Saying in another way, God was invisible and ambigous in the old testaments. This god came to us as a son of man in the world where we lived. Now, this god is living and praying for us inside us. How blessed we are. Hence, people with the name of Jesus by the Holy Spirit can deliver the name to people outside as the grace is so big that they cannot hold it to other people. This is what God wants from us in thie new testaments. That is why the Holy Spirit is still coming from the Father. Why did Jesus come to the earth? Suddenly? No. As planned? Yes.

First of all, not as second, Jesus came to eradicate the devil’s work. (1John 3:8). To save the mandkind from the sins is the second or additional (John 3:16).

The reasons are as follows. (even though I am not indicating chapters and verses, these are all from the Bible)
The devil rebelled against the God in God’s heaven so that he was expelled with 1/3 of angels. Therefore, only the second day of the 6-day creation is the day when God is not said to be happy as the second day is the day when God created the universe into which he put the corrupted devil and following angels. When you have a look at the bible, God was happy for the other five days. God did not want to execute the corrupted devil right away as he is righteous and he wanted to take official measures so that He sent Jesus to fullfill his will. That is why Jesus asked the Father that the Father’s will be realized.
Also, Jesus said that the kingdom of heaven is inside you when you expel demons with the Holy Spirit. Demons are followers of the Devil. Likewise, removing the works of the Devil is understood as having the kingdom of heaven in you.

Throughout realization of this first purpose, the eradicatoin of the Devil’s work, God has a pity on the mankind as he used the mankind as getting Jesus as flesh in this world. Therefore, he is giving a chance to be saved. Otherwise, he could have saved all the mankind. However, the God who loves his name wants to save only the people who are his name as the savier. What is his name? Jesus. You can find how the Lord’s prayer starts (Holiness to your name…). Most of christians who are obsessed with hamanism think that the only and first reason of Jesus coming to this world is that the God wants to save us.

Thus, your wondering about why the God sent Jesus suddenly and Holy Spirit suddently is based on humanism, I reckon. However, the Bible is clearly saying that all the stories and episodes are parable or shades of things to come, which is Jesus. Therefore, the God did not send Jesus unexpectedly. It was planned from the beginning.

As stated, Jesus saved people from their sins. Therefore, people who believe in the name, Jesus, are saved from their sins. So, the Holy Spirit has been sent to these people because the Spirit will be testifying for the name Jesus, in spirits of saved people.

Saying in another way, God was invisible and ambigous in the old testaments. This god came to us as a son of man in the world where we lived. Now, this god is living and praying for us inside us. How blessed we are. Hence, people with the name of Jesus by the Holy Spirit can deliver the name to people outside as the grace is so big that they cannot hold it to other people. This is what God wants from us in thie new testaments. That is why the Holy Spirit is still coming from the Father.

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]]> By: drew http://www.whyilefttherevivalfellowship.com/tongues#comment-106 drew Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:09:43 +0000 http://www.whyilefttherevivalfellowship.com/?p=12#comment-106 Why would the God of the Old Testament - who didn't like anybody else to get in on the act - suddenly feel the need to bring in Jesus or the Holy Spirit to help him communicate a bit better with his creation. It doesn't sound very in character, and what about that bit about being "the same Yesterday, Today and Forever"?

Why would the God of the Old Testament – who didn’t like anybody else to get in on the act – suddenly feel the need to bring in Jesus or the Holy Spirit to help him communicate a bit better with his creation. It doesn’t sound very in character, and what about that bit about being “the same Yesterday, Today and Forever”?

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]]> By: Hutch http://www.whyilefttherevivalfellowship.com/tongues#comment-103 Hutch Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:25:38 +0000 http://www.whyilefttherevivalfellowship.com/?p=12#comment-103 Grace, which is Jesus's meritorious deed (precious blood), is enough for our salvation. The thief at the cross was saved (went to the paradise with Jesus) at the time when the Holy Spirit dwelt in nobody. It is because Jesus told his desciple that he could sent another helper after he ascended to heaven, which means that the Holy Spirit was not residing in people even though prophets like Isaiah were governmed by the Holy Spirit so that he did miraculous things. Therefore, getting the holy spirit for one's belief being confirmed by it shoud not be denied. However, getting the holy spirit is not the condition of salvation. If so, we need to accept another mediator for salvation except for Jesus. Grace, which is Jesus’s meritorious deed (precious blood), is enough for our salvation. The thief at the cross was saved (went to the paradise with Jesus) at the time when the Holy Spirit dwelt in nobody. It is because Jesus told his desciple that he could sent another helper after he ascended to heaven, which means that the Holy Spirit was not residing in people even though prophets like Isaiah were governmed by the Holy Spirit so that he did miraculous things.

Therefore, getting the holy spirit for one’s belief being confirmed by it shoud not be denied. However, getting the holy spirit is not the condition of salvation. If so, we need to accept another mediator for salvation except for Jesus.

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]]> By: Graeme http://www.whyilefttherevivalfellowship.com/tongues#comment-23 Graeme Sun, 21 Feb 2010 03:43:01 +0000 http://www.whyilefttherevivalfellowship.com/?p=12#comment-23 This website clearly demonstrates how a church can manipulate scripture to suit them.

This website clearly demonstrates how a church can manipulate scripture to suit them.

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